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Jul. 18th, 2005

Okay. So I finished Harry Potter at 12:00 Sunday morning, several hours after I started. I pretty much read the whole thing straight through, except for a dinner (and Dr. Who) break. What did I think?

I loved it. Now. About the big development, which someone at literarycrushes described as "you-know-who and you-know-what"

For my comments there, I present

Snape and Dumbledore made an Unbreakable Vow. When Snape killed Dumbledore, he was attempting to keep this vow, AND the vow he'd made to Narcissa. The minute I read about Unbreakable Vows, I guessed that's what made Dumbledore trust Snape. I thought perhaps that Vow would conflict with Narcissa's and Snape would be stuck in a situation where he'd die either way. I was wrong.

The two Vows are compatible, and by killing Dumbledore, Snape was keeping both of them. He was protecting Draco and doing whatever it was he promised Dumbledore (this may have been to protect students, to ensure Voldemort's downfall, to never risk being revealed as a spy or any of a million other things).

Dumbledore and Snape shared a moment of clarity in their brief glance on the tower, during which they no doubt communicated in some way. Dumbledore's "Please" was not "Please DON'T kill me" but "Please DO". Snape was reluctant to do so, hence his distasteful expression. JKR makes much of Snape and Dumbledore being good at Legilimency, so I think it's safe to assume that a message passed between them silently. Snape got so angry when Harry called him a coward, because killing Dumbledore was heart-breaking to him and took guts. The fact that he refused to hurt Harry, but merely blocked his curses, and prevent the other Death Eaters from hurting him indicates that Snape did not want to hurt Harry. (Clearly this is because he made an Unbreakable Vow to Dumbledore).

Snape has protected Malfoy's innocence by stopping him from killing Dumbledore, he has fulfilled two Unbreakable Vows and he hasn't blown his cover. He and Malfoy will join forces with Harry in Book 7, and help kill Voldemort in the final battle.

But this still leaves one question. Who is Dumbledore and Snape's Bonder? If Snape made an Unbreakable Vow to Dumbledore, someone needed to be their bonder (as Bellatrix was for Narcissa and Snape). It's not anyone who heard the story from Harry, because they all believed it (as far as we know). This rules out the other heads of Hogwarts houses (Flitwick, McGonnagall, Sprout and Slughorn), and those around Bill's bedside (Lupin would have been my best bet). It can't be James or Sirius, because Snape turned AFTER James' death, so he was, well... dead, and Sirius was either on the run or in Azkaban.

So who was the bonder? That is the question.

And the horcrux was SO stolen by Regulus Black. No question about that at all.

Anyway, the point is, Snape is a jerk (I never did like him) but he is NOT evil. And nor is Malfoy. There is a big difference between nasty and evil, and I still don't think Snape is evil. He was just doing what had to be done.



( 14 comments! — Make Remark! )
Jul. 18th, 2005 03:09 am (UTC)
Maybe the bonder was Dumbledore's brother? Aberfoth?
I like the idea that Snape and Dumbledore had an unbreakable vow and that is why Dumbledore trusts him. But I think that Snape actually hated whatever it is that Dumbldore made him do and this repressed anger was what helped fuel the AK curse.
*looks at the sceptical looks*
It so is valid!
Anyway, this is just a friendly note from galligaskins from the Ober boards; just so you don't think I'm a crazy stalker. Or a curiously opposable thumb possessing cow. [As opposed to the plain thumb possessing cows, the freaks!]
Jul. 18th, 2005 03:29 am (UTC)
Ah, excellent!

I shall proceed to add you to my Friends list (just because I like to have friends), and fear not! I don't mind crazy stalkers, provided they limit themselves to LJ.

The theory I'm going with right now is that Frank or Alice Longbottom is the bonder. But Aberforth is a good theory.

I've settled on Frank or Alice because they were in the Order, they were available to be bonder after James and Lily's death (they weren't driven mad until some time afterward), and because they aren't dead. I was thinking the bonder must be dead, because otherwise they can just reveal what they heard. But if it's Frank or Alice, the memory still exists somewhere, it's just that they no longer have the faculties to reach it. But perhaps with the help of a pensieve, Harry can see what they witnessed, and discover the truth about Snape's Vow.


*looks proud*
Jul. 18th, 2005 08:12 am (UTC)
You think the unbreakable vow went that far back? Wow. I guess that it has to be someone who is dead, absent or keeping completely quiet over the matter. What are your other reasons for thinking it was one of the Longbottoms? Is the timing right? I assume there is a site somewhere around with a timeline of the Voldemort years.
Jul. 18th, 2005 09:30 am (UTC)
hmm, i think it fits...it was a little after James and Lily's deaths that Severus 'changed' and told Dumbledore how upset he was, how he thought that he was responsible after telling Voldemort of the prophecy...you'd think Dumbledore would have made the vow asap, so that would make timing perfect for one of the longbottoms to have been the bonder wouldn't it?
Why was it that they were driven mad again? :/
Jul. 18th, 2005 11:39 am (UTC)
Bellatrix Lestrange tortured them to make them tell her something she thought they knew about resurrecting Voldemort. I think. Happy to be corrected.
Jul. 18th, 2005 08:06 am (UTC)
Awesome. I am Lol on the Ober-boards. I shall friend you too. :)
Jul. 18th, 2005 08:36 am (UTC)
Hurrah and hello! Friended you back.
Jul. 19th, 2005 05:41 am (UTC)
*continues the adding of Ober.net members*

You thought you could hide from us, good Galligaskins! :D
Jul. 19th, 2005 10:34 am (UTC)
hehe. I think about half of the australian population must be hiding on Livejournal somewhere. We just need a device to track them down! Mwahaha
Jul. 18th, 2005 09:23 am (UTC)
Hang on, I thought Snape turned before James died? Or did I miss that in my speed reading?

And the bonder technically could have been Flitwick - he died during the fight. But I reckon it wasn't. Dunno, who it was, though!
Jul. 18th, 2005 11:38 am (UTC)
No, Flitwick didn't die!

He was just stunned!!!
Jul. 18th, 2005 04:28 pm (UTC)
Really? Bloody hell, I need to reread it. I could've sworn he died!
Jul. 19th, 2005 05:40 am (UTC)
He certainly received a nasty concussion, but you'll be pleased to know he didn't die, good Lizzy of the Rose. :D
Jul. 19th, 2005 06:25 pm (UTC)
Well, that is rather useful to know! I must reread when my sister returns from germany avec our copy.
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